{"id":2274,"date":"2012-11-10T20:36:00","date_gmt":"2012-11-10T20:36:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/rf.podcastfixit.com\/index.php\/2012\/11\/10\/dundee-reit-plans-to-prune-assets-ahead\/"},"modified":"2015-06-01T19:41:59","modified_gmt":"2015-06-01T19:41:59","slug":"dundee-reit-plans-to-prune-assets-ahead","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/newscoverage.org\/index.php\/2012\/11\/10\/dundee-reit-plans-to-prune-assets-ahead\/","title":{"rendered":"Dundee REIT plans to prune assets ahead of European acquisitions"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><b><i>A Square Foot exclusive interview with Michael Cooper<\/i><\/b><br \/>\n<b><br \/><\/b><br \/>\n<b>By Robert Frank<\/b><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.thesquarefoot.ca\/\">www.thesquarefoot.ca<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Towering after its record-breaking acquisition of Toronto\u2019s Scotia Plaza, Dundee Real Estate Investment Trust (REIT) plans to increase the quality of its portfolio by selling off&nbsp;many of its properties, paving the way for overseas purchases.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe expect to sell a lot of assets individually and then redeploy them in assets that we think our style of management would help increase the value of,\u201d CEO Michael Cooper&nbsp;told <i>The Square Foot<\/i> during an exclusive interview.<\/p>\n<p>After turning Dundee REIT into the largest buyer of office buildings in Canada during the past decade, Cooper said that he now sees new opportunities to acquire first-class&nbsp;property in Europe, particularly Germany.<\/p>\n<p>Through its holdings in Dundee International REIT, the company already has a well-established beachhead in Germany, in the wake of Dundee International\u2019s 2011 purchase of&nbsp;a portfolio of some 1,200 German post office properties.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe have a chance to buy excellent quality properties at fair prices and then finance them at very low interest rates,\u201d Cooper enthused.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt\u2019s a little hairy with news about Europe every day,\u201d he acknowledged, \u201cbut I think that over the next number of years there will be a tremendous transfer of real estate&nbsp;ownership in Europe.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIn fact, I would say that it reminds me a little bit of what happened in Canada after 1992, where for years ownership transferred and there was good quality property available&nbsp;at fair prices.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>However, Cooper cautioned investors not to expect see these European opportunities realized overnight.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cEverything is much slower there. It\u2019s a lengthy process to complete each transaction, compared to here,\u201d he explained. \u201cThis is a long-term project, and it\u2019s very exciting.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Dundee\u2019s rapid growth owes much to its circumspection. It acquired Scotia Plaza by successfully tapping into Canadian banks\u2019 vast pool of stable, low-cost capital.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe wanted to make sure that we [would] reduce risk,\u201d Cooper recalled. \u201cSo when we did the deal, the plan was that we would do an equity issue and also the Bank of Nova&nbsp;Scotia would do a bought deal on the debt for the building. That way we would be able to buy the asset without taking on timing risk on debt or equity. That was very important&nbsp;to us.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cSo effectively our company just got bigger but we didn&#8217;t increase the debt on a percentage basis,\u201d he continued. \u201cThat worked very well for us.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Dundee REIT has had a knack for being in the right place at the right time, in a market that has supported the aggressive pursuit of cutting interest rates to the bone.<\/p>\n<p>Likewise, the market has supported Dundee\u2019s accent on prudence.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cGetting the capital lined up so that it didn\u2019t make our business riskier was very important to us,\u201d Cooper stressed.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI\u2019ve never seen a bought bond deal in real estate before. Scotia was great in doing that. They knew that we needed something like that in order to be competitive.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Competitive indeed. With an investment bank undertaking the Scotia Plaza financing risk and Scotiabank \u2014 which rents 61 per cent of its space \u2014 committed to remain in the&nbsp;building for at least 13.5 years, Dundee\u2019s main remaining risk is capital expenses: how much will it need to put into the building to retain its value?<\/p>\n<p>\u201cTo us the value of Scotia [Plaza] is how it improves our company,\u201d Cooper noted, \u201cthe value of the building and the feelings around the building make us feel really good about&nbsp;our company.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt\u2019s good to run a company that gets more and more sound,\u201d he added. \u201cScotia is one piece of the process [of improving] our company.<\/p>\n<p>Though often perceived publicly as having a Midas touch, in private Cooper was modest.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;\u201cI think that we try to target what makes sense for us and to be really efficient with our time\u201d he conceded.<\/p>\n<p>Cooper preferred to point to the value that he has delivered for his unitholders.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe think that the return that Dundee REIT produces now\u2014the fact that it&#8217;s about four times the bond rate\u2014makes it very valuable,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe are providing a lot of people with retirement income, and that is very important to us.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>  (function(i,s,o,g,r,a,m){i[&#8216;GoogleAnalyticsObject&#8217;]=r;i[r]=i[r]||function(){<br \/>\n  (i[r].q=i[r].q||[]).push(arguments)},i[r].l=1*new Date();a=s.createElement(o),<br \/>\n  m=s.getElementsByTagName(o)[0];a.async=1;a.src=g;m.parentNode.insertBefore(a,m)<br \/>\n  })(window,document,&#8217;script&#8217;,&#8217;\/\/www.google-analytics.com\/analytics.js&#8217;,&#8217;ga&#8217;);<\/p>\n<p>  ga(&#8216;create&#8217;, &#8216;UA-45892555-1&#8217;, &#8216;robertfrankmedia.blogspot.com&#8217;);<br \/>\n  ga(&#8216;send&#8217;, &#8216;pageview&#8217;);<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A Square Foot exclusive interview with Michael Cooper By Robert Frank www.thesquarefoot.ca Towering after its record-breaking acquisition of Toronto\u2019s Scotia Plaza, Dundee Real Estate Investment Trust (REIT) plans to increase the quality of its portfolio by selling off&nbsp;many of its properties, paving the way for overseas purchases. \u201cWe expect to sell a lot of assets<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-2274","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.4 - 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